Curious about how a children's book illustrator transitions into a powerhouse in SEO? Jonas Sickler joins us to share his incredible journey in this unscripted interview and we learn about the creative pathways that led him to become an SEO expert at Terakeet.

You'll hear all about how he leveraged his artistic skills to understand the digital landscape and how the SEO game has evolved from keyword stuffing to creating valuable content assets that truly resonate with audiences. Jonas also introduces us to the intriguing concept of owned asset optimization, a strategy that can significantly elevate your brand's visibility across multiple channels.

Ever wondered how branded clicks can actually gauge your market authority? Jonas and I break down the dynamics between branded and non-branded search behaviors and why brand searches might just be the ultimate indicators of relevance. We also venture into the often-overlooked realm of broader business metrics, stressing the importance of looking beyond just rankings and traffic. Learn why metrics like revenue and conversions should be your new best friends in the world of SEO, and get tips on how to measure these outcomes effectively.

Forecasting SEO growth can be a tough nut to crack, but Jonas offers some invaluable insights into building accurate models. We discuss the importance of historical data, algorithm changes, and the balance between instant PPC results and long-term SEO benefits.

Our conversation highlights the necessity of collaboration and clear target-setting, especially when it comes to setting up PPC campaigns with efficient cost-per-acquisition targets. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or just getting started, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you align your marketing strategies with your broader business goals.